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July 2, 2009 by Anonymous

David Irving’s Holocaust-Denial Speaking Tour: The Show that Must Not Go On

This July, David Irving, a British neo-fascist and fraudulent historian, goes on the road in the United States, planning to hold approximately one and a half dozen speaking engagements over the course of a month. As militant anti-racists and anti-fascists, we are making a public call for resistance at each stop along the way of this tour.

Who is David Irving?

David Irving is a British writer of histories who has been involved with the fascist political scene since the 1960s. Always known for the pro-Hitler bias of his books, approximately two decades ago Irving made the transition to being a fully-fledged Holocaust-denier, when he testified at the trial of neo-Nazi Ernst Zündel in Canada, and also arranged the publication of Fred Leuchter’s widely-refuted report on gas chambers at Auschwitz. In addition to spreading blatant historical lies, Irving has publicly stated that “The Jews are the architects of their own misfortune”. Unsurprisingly, Irving has been an extremely popular speaker at neo-Nazi rallies in Germany.

In the British libel case Irving v. Penguin Books and Lipstadt, the final ruling in favor of the defendants confirmed that Irving “is an active Holocaust denier” and that “he is anti-Semitic and racist and that he associates with right-wing extremists who promote neo-Nazism.” In 2006, Irving was jailed in Austria after pleading guilty to a charge of “trivializing the Holocaust”, which is a crime in that county. Since his release, Irving has been marketing himself as a former “political prisoner”.

Why Oppose These Events?

Irving’s current tour focuses on “"Re-writing history, using the decoded Nazi messages" (see: http://www. focal. org/speaks/index.html). The re-writing of Third Reich history—especially in relation to the Nazi “Final Solution” for Europe’s Jewish population—is a major preoccupation for modern neo-Nazis and neo-fascists, who correctly believe that memory of the Holocaust is a significant barrier to the mainstreaming of their beliefs. The Holocaust is denied so that, paradoxically, it can be repeated. Wherever Irving appears, he is backed and promoted by virulent anti-Semites and fascist organizers.

Irving’s bogus history is both blatantly offensive and incorrect. However, we oppose Irving not for what he thinks, but rather for what he does. As the name of his own publishing project suggests, Irving serves as a “focal point” to bring Jew-haters and goose-steppers together. He is part of a political tendency that is actively organizing for ethnic and racial hostilities, and in particular to persecute Jewish people. (James von Brunn’s murder of a security guard at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum is one recent example of where this anti-Semitic and neo-Nazi tendency can lead. Von Brunn moved within many of the same circles that promote Irving’s work.)

We believe that fascist activism and movement-building should meet with organized resistance. As the Anti-Racist Action Network states in its Points of Unity:

“Whenever fascists are organizing or active in public, we're there. We don't believe in ignoring them or staying away from them. Never let the nazis have the street!”

We invite you to help this effort along, by organizing in your own community.

When and Where?

At present, the dates for Irving’s speaking tour are as follows:

July 3 Friday: Kansas City, 19:00

July 6 Monday: Oklahoma City, 19:00

July 8 Wednesday: Albuquerque, 19:00

July 10 Friday: Phoenix, 19:00

July 12 Sunday: Las Vegas, buffet, 19:00

July 13 Monday: Salt Lake City, buffet, 19:00

July 15 Wednesday: Boise, buffet, 19:00

July 16 Thursday: Spokane, buffet, 19:00

July 18 Saturday: Seattle 15:00

July 19 Sunday: Portland, OR, buffet, 15:00

July 22 Wednesday: Sacramento, buffet,18:30

July 23 Thursday: San Francisco, buffet 18:30

July 25 Saturday: Costa Mesa, 18:30

July 26 Sunday: Sherman Oaks, 15:00

July 29 Wednesday: Denver, 19:00

July 30 Thursday: Omaha, 19:00

July 31 Friday: Chicago incl. de luxe dinner, 19:00

The exact location of Irving’s talk in each city has not been made public, due to Irving’s fear of encountering the opposition he so richly deserves. Any determined group of individuals ought to be able to pinpoint the event location in their city, however. Many of these events are probably booked under false pretexts, and venue owners may not necessarily know who they are hosting.

Further dates may be added (or subtracted!) as the tour progresses. Irving also plans to speak on the East Coast later this year, although dates have not been announced for this yet. Let’s set the tone for the East Coast wing of Irving’s tour right now!

No platform for fascists, no compromise!

- Rose City Antifa / Portland ARA

fight_them_back [at] riseup [dot] net

971.533.7832 (voicemail)

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poop on fascists

July 2, 2009 by Anonymous, 20 weeks 3 days ago
Comment id: 3618

alright, let's shut it down1!1!!!

get looking!

July 3, 2009 by Anonymous, 20 weeks 3 days ago
Comment id: 3619

we need to figure out where the meeting is to take place. any ideas?

an idea

July 3, 2009 by Anonymous, 20 weeks 3 days ago
Comment id: 3621

if somebody wants to sacrifice their identity to the cause, irving's website lets you sign up for the event to get more info. link: www .fpp.co.uk/apply/

that would probably work, but the details might be slow in coming.

other ideas?

he's very good at hiding his venues

July 4, 2009 by tina braxton, 20 weeks 2 days ago
Comment id: 3622

Whatever he puts on his website will be a ruse. If you sign up, don't use your real identity.

I did some research on how he conducts his tours. Last time he came to Denver, he eluded protesters. But we can catch up with him. Just don't blow your cover.

article on earlier tour: http://www.jewishmag.com/79mag/irving/irving.htm

Perhaps

July 6, 2009 by Anonymous, 20 weeks 21 hours ago
Comment id: 3629

Because he hides the locations of the meetings/speeches/whatever until the last minute, simply calling the venue and complaining about him isn't going to be enough. It will be too short notice, and even if there was a last-minute cancellation Irving would just move it to a sympathizer's property or take his measly crowd back to his roach motel.

Last time I checked, "militant" anti-racism and fascism isn't about simply making some telephone calls and having an event moved. Why aren't we getting together, finding the location, and confronting these people instead?

Just a thought. Denver has the luxury of time in this scenario, and plenty of time to research and plan for an action against Irving. Is there an explicitly anti-racist action organizing group in Denver? How can people get involved?

For now, everyone should just be calling their friends and planning on showing up if the fucker gets into town.

maybe-

July 6, 2009 by Anonymous, 20 weeks 11 hours ago
Comment id: 3631

we could set up a text communications list similar to those used at the DNC and RNC to quickly send out updated information about possible locations.

those are good ideas

July 6, 2009 by tina braxton, 20 weeks 11 hours ago
Comment id: 3632

We should plan for a mass action, with the idea that we won't know the true location till the last minute. The effort is not wasted-- forcing Irving to change his venue at the last minute, maybe several times, will help to wear him down and isolate him. It will also decrease the size of his audience, as many of them will either get tired of changing plans or get lost and show up in the wrong place.

He has been run out of other cities. He has also had his audiences reduced to single digits.

The text idea is a good one. But we need to be extremely careful to avoid infiltration. Nazis regularly read Indymedia. They try to post their propaganda, and in some cities, they crash meetings. Whatever we put together, they will try to get in on, so they can sabotage it.

A lot of people who might not read Indymedia will also be interested in protesting (or stopping) Irving's appearance. There are faith groups, veterans' groups, mainstream organizations for people of color--practically everybody. They will also be working on this, and they will have ideas and resources.

ARA-Associated Censorship

July 12, 2009 by Anonymous, 19 weeks 1 day ago
Comment id: 3653

You leftists are a piece of work. In the name of "antifacism" you commit what people condemn Hitler for doing --- censoring. What the fuck is wrong with you?

1st Amendment > ARA.

Go back to the toilet you crawled out of. Are you trying to earn a free pair of blue coveralls from Big Brother for being good little Outer Party members? Fuck off.

Are you serious?

July 12, 2009 by Anonymous, 19 weeks 1 day ago
Comment id: 3654

Fascists and neo-nazis DON'T DESERVE FREE SPEECH. When groups and members of ideologies that have used their rhetoric to murder, enslave, or imprison millions of people they lose the privilege. Perhaps you're not familiar with the first amendment, either? People have every right to protest organizations that threaten to beat or kill them simply because the color of their skin, sexual orientation, gender, or even class. Would you really expect minorities and the antifascists acting in solidarity with them to even tolerate a neo-nazi gathering in their community? Please. That isn't "censorship," that's defending where you live from violent racist trash.

And considering that a good chunk of people participating in antifascist actions are anarchists, your accusations of "leftists" if a little off base, they certainly don't have any respect for laws or American constitution, and the idea that they'd accept anything from a Big Brother is preposterous.

-jesse

lol wtf

July 12, 2009 by Anonymous, 19 weeks 1 day ago
Comment id: 3658

Jesse, I don't think anyone asked your version of Constitutional Law. I would suggest that you consider a study of the First Amendment and what it means. Unless you are having delusions of grandeur, you certainly realize that you are not God, and therefore do not have a right to take it upon yourself to override the Constitution and deprive others of their right to speak. In attempting to silence them, you are violating their civil rights.

It matters none that you personally wish the right to speak to be taken from people who say things you do not like. If you think that this is justified, then I request that you produce the relevant legal rulings to substantiate your case. If you cannot, then you are merely blowing off hot air, and you are in fact attempting to violate other peoples' civil rights. If you claim to respect the American constitution, then you need to practice what you preach. Protesting against something is one thing, trying to deprive others of their right to speak is another, and you've stepped way over the line. You have no right to do so.

ha

July 12, 2009 by Anonymous, 19 weeks 1 day ago
Comment id: 3662

I've got no respect for the constitution or any other sort of law. I could care less about a Nazi or a fascist's right to speak at all, because they are Nazis and Fascists. These are ideologies which have never existed without violence and hate. Trying to veil your apologist stance for fascism and neo-Nazism behind hardly valid "constitutional laws of free speech" is cowardly. These idiots you're throwing your weight behind aren't "run out of town," the venues they gather at are notified of who they are and they can't hold their event because normal people don't tolerate hateful racists.

Freedom of Speech is a liberal construct. Fascists and Nazis don't get to host events publicly in this or any other town, that's the bottom line. Fuck them. I don't believe in showing tolerance to groups founded entirely on unwarranted and frankly, quite silly intolerance. If you've got a problem with that, I'll see you in the street.

(A)
-Jesse

You actually have to be told this?!

July 12, 2009 by Anonymous, 19 weeks 1 day ago
Comment id: 3661

Anarchists aren't leftists? Unless David Irving has said he wants people slaughtered and that he's come to incite said slaughter, then your justifications of ripping his civil rights out from under him are unjustified and hallucinated. Show me where he ever advocated violence against anyone. Protest and censorship are two different things. You want Irving CENSORED. Run out of town. Silenced for good. That's not legal, and you advocate breaking the law.

David Irving meeting in Portland Oregon

July 25, 2009 by Anonymous, 17 weeks 2 days ago
Comment id: 3708

Myself and a few friends - antiwar activists, 9/11 doubters, the kind of people who post on Indymedia - braved a campaign of slander and hints of violence from Rose City Antifa to see Irving speak. He did not advocate violence. He did not deny the Holocaust. He condemned the Nazis and their crimes in great detail.

For investigating the truth about Irving and spreading it, we are being subject to more harrassment from the antifascists. One of us had all his details published online by the antifascists, and shortly afterwards was verbally harrassed and narrowly missed by a truck. I can only ask people in Denver not to uncritically accept everything they read, and to stand up to harrassment.

David Irving *IS* an unrepentant Nazi and Holocaust denier

July 26, 2009 by tina braxton, 17 weeks 1 day ago
Comment id: 3709

A great deal is known about David Irving. He has a long history and public record. My criticisms of him are not dependent upon heresay or "uncritically accept[ing] everything" I read. He has been, for decades, universally denounced by people who are highly qualified to evaluate his ideas. Moreover, his writings and his statements, of years past, are infamous.

The writer of the above comment probably feels more secure by writing anonymously, and I concur that, in this case, anonymity is probably a reasonable choice. But since I don't know who that writer is, I don't know much about that writer. The only clue I have about that writer's ability to read critically and judge sources (other than the writer's defense of Mr. Irving) is the brief self-identification "911 doubter." This does not indicate strong analytical skills.

If David Irving had indeed undergone some great epiphany, I'm certain he would have made a very public announcement of that--at least to the academic community, which has shunned him so completely. He is smart enough to realize that that would be an essential first step to restoring the economic success he once enjoyed, if such a thing is possible at all. He has made no such announcement.

The purpose of Mr. Irving's speaking tour is to raise money for his legal and living expenses. He has probably found he can get a few more bucks by speaking softly. That does not mean his poisonous thinking has changed. And with a growing Nazi-fascist-white-supremacist movement in the U.S., he could, plausibly, leave the task of propaganda to others (who will, no doubt, continue to cite his writings), and concentrate on making money.

The fact that Mr. Irving may have switched to a "soft sell" approach does not change who he is or what he represents.

Unrepentant Nazi and Holocaust denier?

July 27, 2009 by Anonymous, 17 weeks 11 hours ago
Comment id: 3710

Tina of Colorado is sharp. Unlike many on the left, and like me, she does not
believe that the official government version of what happened on
September 11th is probably wrong. She is wrong to say I identify myself as a 9/11 doubter.

I posted anonymously because I couldn't see any other way to post on your IMC - every IMC has a different system. There's no point in hiding my identity - the anti-fascists in Portland have already publicized it and those of my comrades, and tried to get us fired from our jobs. I could give my name, but I won't be here long anyway. Once we start engaging in a debate, and we clarify issues and maybe
reach some agreement, I will probably be barred.

Our comrades have been banned without explanation from posting comments on Portland IMC and other left-wing sites, despite carefully staying within Indymedia's guidelines, avoiding threats, racism, and so on. We were barred because we criticize the anti-fascist thought police who are currently trying to divide and weaken our community. It does, however, publish this: 'To the 911 Liars, and other Nazi enabling scum: if You support fascist organizing, you should be crushed along with your fascist friends', together with our names, addresses and photographs.

You mention Irving's followers. In Eugene, Oregon, last summer, his audience was overwhelmingly liberal - tie-dye t-shirts and Obama buttons. In Portland, this summer, I think they were mostly libertarian. One contributor comments that, at Irving's meeting in Phoenix, some of those inside gave 'sieg-heil' salutes to the protestors outside. Isn't it just possible that they were being sarcastic?

According to the anti-fascists, some 'Nazis' showed up. Well, nobody was wearing an SS uniform and nobody said 'Heil Hitler', but I didn't go round the room asking "excuse me, ma'am, but are you by any chance a National Socialist?". Some of the critics claim to know that Irving is REALLY a Nazi, just using a 'soft sell' approach. Of course, I don't know what Irving really thinks. I don't know what you really think either. I do know, however, that unlike some of the people who post on this subject on Portland Indymedia, you DO think, and that's why I've taken the time to answer you at length.

I only know that, in what Irving says and writes, he does not deny the Holocaust, and he does not support Nazism. The people who say he does do those things, are lying. They also claim he is a 'fraudulent historian'. To do this honestly, you would have to have done quite a bit of research, and found out exactly where Irving is deliberately falsifying his results. You cannot rely on the usual sources for this information, because American academics often capitulate under pressure from Zionists - whether they are asked to rat on a colleague from the left, or from the extreme right. So I don't rely on academics for what Irving says; I rely on Irving. I do not know if he is right or wrong, so I do not claim to know. Those who claim they do know, but do not know, are lying. Even if he turns out to be a fraud, they will still have been lying, because they claimed to know, what they did not in fact know. There is a difference between Irving's historical claims and his personal opinions, and his critics deliberately amalgamate them. He undoubtedly expresses racial prejudices, which would disqualify him from being a buddy of mine, but does that disqualify him from writing accurately about how the Nazi leadership operated? I don't see why. Such a careful analysis of his pros and cons is anathema to the emotional approach of the modern left, and enough to get me banned. So let's see if I can post this...

basta

July 27, 2009 by tina braxton, 17 weeks 8 hours ago
Comment id: 3711

It is difficult to tell from the grammar used in your original comment whether you are a 911 doubter, or whether this refers only to your companions. But some things are certain.

From both of your comments, it is obvious you are either a liar or a fool. You make claims as to what Irving has and has not said and written. Those claims are entirely false. All of your blather about "careful analysis" is garbage.

As for historians--I happen to be a historian. We historians differ on a great many issues, but not on our disdain for Irving. That includes historians who support the State of Israel, and those of us (quite likely a majority) who do not.

You are also lying about Portland Indymedia. It is possible to post anonymous comments there, just as it is here. If you have been banned from posting under your name, there is nothing to stop you from posting anonymously.

Since you are one of the handful of people (only about two dozen) who went to Irving's talk in Portland and willingly paid good money to hear him, you are not the sort of person who will find a receptive audience hare. I hope you will not waste any more of our time.

Uhh

July 27, 2009 by BringItDownNow, 17 weeks 4 hours ago
Comment id: 3712

He is going to be here in two days. Is there any intel? Should folks be hanging around downtown waiting for some news? Is there a ball rolling? Was it dropped? Was it ever picked up in the first place?

What's going on?

Irving speaking at Marriott

July 28, 2009 by Anonymous, 16 weeks 6 days ago
Comment id: 3713

Three or four years ago, Irving spoke at the Marriott hotel by the airport. I have heard he is speaking there again this year, but last time the Marriott refused to say if he was speaking there, even though I saw him with my own eyes. They will probably do the same again this year. I encourage everyone to show up at the Marriott ready to drive Irving out of town.

two things

July 28, 2009 by tina braxton, 16 weeks 5 days ago
Comment id: 3715

Thanks for this information.

One thing to consider. Irving has spoken at other places in Denver, in years past. He might not be using the Marriott this year.

If he is using the Marriott, or even if he isn't, it's a good idea to call and complain. The fact that they allowed him to speak there in the past is sufficient reason. And we should say we have information that he is speaking there this year, and we demand they cancel his appearance. They probably still won't say whether he will be there this time, but if he is, they might cancel him.

Irving at the Marriott DIA

July 29, 2009 by Anonymous, 16 weeks 5 days ago
Comment id: 3716

I heard from a pretty reliable source that he IS going to be at the Marriott by the airport BUT under another name and will be using one of the smaller conference rooms. Supposedly the room is being booked by another person to try to foil attempts to find him. AND he is expecting that some people who are actually coming to hear him speak may not find it either SO he's telling his "followers" to be persistent because he IS there. Also, get this, there is an Emergency plan if he's found out to "retreat" down I-225 to a restaurant that's on EITHER Mississippi(?) or Evans(?) and continue his thing there. I put a lot of things at risk to get this information including pretending to be something I'm not, so please don't let this go to waste.

Marriott

July 29, 2009 by BringItDownNow, 16 weeks 5 days ago
Comment id: 3717

I called the register a complaint with the hotel and they told me that the only thing going on tonight is being put on by Aurora Public Schools. They haven't dealt with anyone named David Irving and I encouraged them to call other hotels in the area to notify them of Irving's intention to gather.

I am registered for the event

July 29, 2009 by Anonymous, 16 weeks 5 days ago
Comment id: 3718

I am registered for the event and was informed by email earlier today that it would be at the Marriott and that the management is keeping the details confidential, being told that anyone who calls and asks about the event is not someone who has been invited and are thus not to be told.

These corporate shills

July 29, 2009 by BringItDownNow, 16 weeks 5 days ago
Comment id: 3719

are protecting and harboring fascists now? That's disgusting!

And they don't mind if YOU tell where the event is?

July 29, 2009 by tina braxton, 16 weeks 5 days ago
Comment id: 3720

I was sure Irving must be smarter than that.

Well folks, I guess we can rule out the Marriott.

Irving is there!

July 29, 2009 by Anonymous, 16 weeks 5 days ago
Comment id: 3721

Just got a text from a friend who went to check at the Marriott and he says he saw a girl that looks like Irving's assistant talking to the front desk staff! I am heading over there now to check it out.
-Chris

Irving at Marriot

July 30, 2009 by Anonymous, 16 weeks 4 days ago
Comment id: 3724

Man, where were you all?!!! I thought you were defenders of future free speech. But you lazy bones let him talk. Just based on the rumor I drove down there myself to see. And sure enough. I was there and saw Irving right in the Marriot. He was in one of their conference rooms, had about 60 people there. They should all have been run out of town for listening to him talk. I could have, but didn't want to spend the money to listen to his trash. How dare he talk about anything. Anyway, I encourage everyone to call Marriot to voice their displeasure that they allowed Irving to talk. Peter

Irving At Marriott

July 30, 2009 by Anonymous, 16 weeks 4 days ago
Comment id: 3725

Dear Indymedia, et al,

Next time I have beliefs that I think any of you may not agree with, I'll check with you to see if it's okay if I think that way. Because if you don't approve of the way I think I surely don't want you to attempt to deprive ME of my livelihood or harass ME in public. And also, I could send you a list of books that I own and if any of them are objectionable I will get rid of them; we could call it "book burning." Maybe we could all contact our local legislators and insist they introduce a bill making "thought crime" illegal. I now understand that I don't deserve the right to decide for myself the value of what Mr. Irving, or anyone else you disapprove of, has to say. I'm just glad I've seen the light and understand that we should all think alike, because surely, the world would be a much better place if we all thought like you. I just can't believe I've labored under the delusion that I'm an "individual" for so long. Can any of you ever forgive me?

-Publius

Irving at Marriott

July 30, 2009 by Anonymous, 16 weeks 4 days ago
Comment id: 3726

Not wanting to start a huge storm here, but Peter's comment about being at the Marriott and seeing Irving in a room with about 60 others is totally incorrect. Irving gave his presentation at a small restaurant in Arvada last night. People should not pop off on here with lies. It serves absolutely no one.

Irving at the Marriott

July 30, 2009 by Anonymous, 16 weeks 4 days ago
Comment id: 3727

That is a total lie. I saw Irving at the Marriott also last night. I think the last poster is one of Irving's people trying to spread confusion.

-Rick

David Irving in Denver--Did anybody show up to protest?

August 1, 2009 by tina braxton, 16 weeks 2 days ago
Comment id: 3728

I did the intel to find out where Irving would be speaking. It wasn't easy--or cheap--I had to create a false identity, since the Nazis check out those who register for these events.

I sent out the information I had about the venue, by email, to a number of persons who I thought might be interested in protesting Irving's presence, asking them to pass it to others. I avoided using the usual email lists, as they were likely infiltrated. And of course I couldn't post it here, since Nazis monitor the site and have been posting on this issue.

I still don't know if anyone showed up to protest, but it looks like they didn't. I could not go--I work as a nanny and had to care for a houseful of kids who are not my own. But I did what I could.

If anyone did go to protest Irving, I hope you will get in touch with me. I am so outraged at everyone, I am about to tell the entire City of Denver to fuck off. David Irving comes here every year and slides right through. He might as well move here. Nobody gives a shit.

PS: I don't know the identity of BringItDown now, nor the anonymous comment-writer who correctly identified Irving's venue as a restaurant in Arvada. Of course, none of the above applies to either of you.
.

Tina

August 2, 2009 by BringItDownNow, 16 weeks 1 day ago
Comment id: 3730

this is Jesse from the Indymedia/UD meetings.

I am livid I didn't see the intel that he was at an eatery in Arvada until it was posted here the next day. I live in Arvada and would have had enough people with me to have felt safe enough to come protest. I was on Indymedia and on mailing lists all day waiting for a location and information if somebody was putting a group together. All day I basically yelled at anyone who listened about how unacceptable it was that this guy was disrupted in other towns during this tour and how Denver couldn't get it together, even with a month's notice, to stop him from speaking.

What it came down to was I didn't want to show up at the Marriott (where I had understood the meeting took place until yesterday) alone. I wouldn't had gone to the restaurant in Arvada by myself either. There was NO organization whatsoever to counter this event and virtually no communication other than comments posted open on COMIC to the few people who even bothered to try and plug in to a protest of David Irving. Nobody could have had any idea what they were up against, how safe they were going to be, how many protesters there would be, etc.

Perhaps because I haven't lived here very long, I didn't feel like I could organize anything substantial by myself. This is the first time I was aware that he was going to be in town and I am pretty pissed that I stayed home all day waiting for information and nothing came but scattered, questionable intel from anon authors on Indymedia. Was everybody I saw in the streets during the DNC from fucking out of town?

The fact that a fascist held a public event in Colorado and the State's anarchists, activists, anti-fascists and anti-racists couldn't even confront it because, eh, nobody really gave a shit is pretty much a giant fail. We could've gotten the goddamn Greenpeace kids on 16th St. to come protest a fucking NAZI. How hard is it to convince people to come to that protest anymore?

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For additional information on Government Diabetes.Org, contact Charles Greene or visit http://www.government-diabetes.org http://www.free-glucose-meter-rx... , Diabetic-Testing-Supplies.Orgfor news on diabetes visit , http://www.free-diabetic-supplie... . . Government Diabetes.Org offers a free diabetics watch and a free glucose meter to qualified beneficiaries with diabetes. Free diabetic watch offers are available in all 50 states while supplies last.
Zhibin Gu: China entrepreneurship, open society revolution vs Communist dynasty: history, politics, economy, and corruption
21 hours 51 min ago
Anonymous

George Zhibin Gu summarizes the history of China's Communist Dynasty:

(George Zhibin Gu of China is an author of several new books, including: 1. China's global reach, 2. China and the new world order, 3. Made in China.)

The past 60 years of China's Communist history can be divided roughly into two phases.

The first phase, between 1949 and 1978, was this: the Communist bureaucracy had totally destroyed society, the economy and the culture. This was done by a total bureaucratic monopoly over all of nation's wealth, labor, markets, organizations and institutions. Furthermore, it completely destroyed the free press and the law. But this unprecedented bureaucratic domination immediately produced unprecedented man-made disasters in world history, not just China's. The disasters include endless violence and terror, the creation of the state sector and people's communes, the total bureaucratization of media, education, and thought.

In the end, beginning in 1958, the regime wanted to have a total bureaucratic miracle in the so-called Great Leap Forward (1958-60), and record disasters emerged all at once. Record deaths of some 50 million people occurred in the period of 1958-62, killing some 50 million people by an unprecedented famine as well as a record oganized violence.

What is more, these unprecedented miseries turned out to be the very beginning of bureaucratic disasters. Worse than the famine, three bureaucratic wars emerged against society and the people in the period of 1959-78, which ended to destroy countless millions of lives, or even more, by organized violence, not to mention a near total destruction of culture, education, thinking, wealth and all other good things in life.
Responding to Harmful Government Inaction, Protestors Stop Blasting on Coal River Mountain
2 days 9 hours ago
Anonymous

PETTUS, W. Va. – Early this morning two concerned citizens, Dea Goblirsch and Nick Martin, locked down to a drill rig on Coal River Mountain’s Bee Tree mountaintop removal site, effectively stopping blasting. Two others, Grace Williams and Laura Von Dolen, joined them in direct support, holding a banner with the message “Save Coal River Mountain”.

These nonviolent protestors have taken this action to bring attention to the extreme danger facing residents of the Coal River Valley from blasting near the Brushy Fork Impoundment. They plan to stay locked down until law enforcement removes them.

Resident of Rock Creek, W Va., Delbert Gunnoe, stated his concerns with the blasting, “You know when they put a blast over there, and it shakes the windows over here, at what, ¾-a-mile distance, imagine what it does over there.” Gunnoe continued, “if [the impoundment] did bust…what would be the destruction? The town of Whitesville would no longer exist.”

The four are fearful of the blasting that Massey Energy began in late October. These blasts are 200 feet from the Brushy Fork Impoundment, permitted to hold nine billion gallons of toxic coal slurry. The impoundment sits atop miles of hollow, abounded underground mines, further endangering its integrity. By Massey’s own estimates, roughly 998 people will die should the dam break. The emergency evacuation plan states that a 40-foot wall of sludge, cresting at 72 feet, will flow through the valley, reaching 20-feet-high about 15 miles down the road. Apart from the initial flood, the impact of this potential spill would be felt along the Coal River’s 88 miles.
EVIDENCE THAT UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS WELCOMES FBI INTEL OPERATIONS AGAINST WHISTLEBLOWER
3 days 10 hours ago
gsosbee

The universities across the nation (and AG) do more for the fbi/cia than assist in the search for foreign terrorists; today our colleges and universities directly encourage their campus police and civilian employees to engage in unlawful intel operations against whistleblower
GERAL SOSBEE.

 

 

 

In November, 2009, the Texas Attorney General (AG) grants near blanket authority (in Case number OR2009-16316 & Case ID#367454) to the University Of Texas Police (UTP) and Harlingen, Texas (HTP) Police to withhold from Open Records (OR) disclosure the key data in their possession relating to Geral Sosbee. The AG also states in each opinion that the AG has no authority beyond the scope of the OR statutes. The AG thus hides from his responsibility as a citizen and human being for civil and human rights violations behind the the OR guidelines ( which are designed to allow the police to engage in witch hunts, stalking, harassment, fraudulent stings and other crimes as I have documented at many pages of www.sosbeevfbi.com.) I have also provided the AG with evidence of ongoing felonies against my person (continuing in Texas and other locations for the past decade); by the AG letters referenced above the fbi now gains the AG approval and authority to use UT employees (including UTP) in efforts to silence or kill me; see for example the specifics of some of my reports at

http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/affidavit2007.html

 
Evening of Solidarity for Dr. Mutulu Shakur
3 days 10 hours ago
denverabc

An Evening of Solidarity for Mutulu Shakur
Presented by Denver and Aurora CopWatch, Sisters of Color United for Education, and Denver ABC

Saturday, November 28th
Sisters of Color 2895 8th Ave, Denver, CO (8th and federal across the street from the bus yard)
7:30-12ish
Sliding Scale 1-5$ (if you ain't got it don't let it stop you from coming)

Teach-in by Professor Ward Churchill

Live Music by:
Mike Wird
Ietef
Debajito (of Debajo Del Agua)

Hosted by Shareef Aleem

Please join us on Saturday, November 28th to stand in solidarity with Dr Mutulu Shakur before his appeals hearing on Monday, November 30th at the super-maximum Federal prison in Florence, CO.

Dr. Shakur is a New Afrikan (Black) man whose primary work has been in the area of health. He is a doctor of acupuncture and one of the most prolific, committed and conscious freedom fighters and political prisoners to whom the Black liberation struggle has given birth.

Since the age 16, Dr. Shakur has been a part of the New Afrikan
Independence Movement. As a part of this movement Dr. Shakur has been a target of the illegal Counterintelligence Program carried out by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (COINTELPRO). This was a secret police strategy used in the U.S. starting in the 1960's to destroy and neutralize progressive and revolutionary organizations. It is believed that Dr. Shakur's resistance to this program led to his arrest and trial.

"Straight ahead, stiff resistance"

contact info: 970.302.7349/miketruswell@yahoo.com
www.mutulushakur.com
www.dare2struggle.org
The Shortwave Report 11/20/09 Listen Globally
4 days 4 hours ago
Anonymous

 Dear Radio Friend,
The latest Shortwave Report (November 20) is up at the website
http://www.outfarpress.com/outfa... in both broadcast quality (13.3MB) and quickdownload or streaming form (4.9MB) (28:59)
(NEW! If you have access to Audioport.org there is a higher quality version posted up there {26.7MB} http://www.audioport.org/index.p...)
Water and Imperialism
4 days 7 hours ago
NickB

(www.raimd.wordpress.com)

Water is essential, in various ways, to all human activity. Water is something that humans, literally, cannot do without. Every human needs water in order live and to have a good life. Societies need water in order to be provide for the survival of their populations. Usable water, as a resource, is finite and distributed unevenly across the planet. Most societies have difficulty providing water to their populations, especially in the Third World. The inability to access water is referred to as the water crisis.
la virgen de Guadalupe y los curas
4 days 9 hours ago
Anonymous

LA VIRGEN DE LA GUADALUPE ES DE TODOS LOS MEXICANOS, NO DE LOS CURAS

La Conferencia del Episcopado Mexicano (CEM) no está de acuerdo en que los Mexicanos utilicemos a la Virgen de la Guadalupe, como sucedió en la marcha de SME el pasado 11 de noviembre (2009) por “manipular el sentimiento religioso”, se ha afirmado en varias ocasiones desde que concluyó la 88ª Asamblea Plenaria del CEM. Los curas, junto con los políticos y las grandes transnacionales se han adueñado de nuestro país y de nuestros símbolos.

¿Ya se les olvidó a los curas que la Virgen de Guadalupe es el único símbolo religioso auténticamente Mexicano? ¿Ya se les olvidó que ellos llegaron con Hernán Cortés a robar y a imponernos su cruz a sangre y fuego? La Virgen de Guadalupe es Tonantzin y es nuestra, aunque no les guste a los extranjeros como ellos.

Lo que los curas del CEM no quieren es que el pueblo Mexicano, unido al SME, siga la trayectoria de don Miguel Hidalgo y les arrebate la jugosa ganancia.

Yo les pido a los curas del CEM que ya no nos “salven”.
¡¡Larguense de aquí!! ¡¡Larguense!! ¡¡Larguense!! ¡¡Larguense!! ¡¡Larguense!! ¡¡Larguense de México y de todo este continente!!
Josefa Ortiz
http://josefaortiz.hpage.com/sme...

 
PRESIDENT OBAMA ~ TAX EXEMPT U.S. FOUNDATIONS OF OUR AMERICAN WEALTHY ELITE HAVE BECOME TAX EVASION FOUNDATIONS THAT NEED NEW FEDERAL GUIDLINES.....
5 days 5 hours ago
Anonymous

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TAX EXEMPT SLUSH FUND CHARITIES(FOUNDATIONS) FOR OUR U.S. WEALTHY ELITE AMERICANS WE ALL KNOW  are QUITE COMMON AND COSTING THE U.S.GOVERNMENT BILLIONS IN POSSIBLE TAX REVENUE.

***MANY OF THESE SAME AMERICAN WEALTHY ELITE NOT ONLY HAVE FULL CONTROL OVER THEIRTX EVADING  FOUNDATIONS BILLIONS,BUT ALSO FIND IT NECESSARY TO HIRE LOBBYISTS TO ATTEMPT THE DIRECT CONTROL OVER VARIOUS USES OF AMERICAN TAX PAYERS TAX $$$ ???

WEALTHY ELITE AMERICANS HAVE COMPLETE CONTROL OVER OUR U.S.CONGRESSIONAL TAX DOLLAR SPENDING WITH THEIR BEHIND THE SCENE LOBBY MONIES... AND ARE CONTINUING TO DENY MIDDLE~CLASS AND WORKING POOR AMERICANS PROPER HEALTH ~ CARE , PROPER LEGAL PROTECTIONS IN AMERICAN FAMILY COURTS,CIVIL COURTS,& FEDERAL APPEALS FROM STATE COURTS. **THOUSANDS OF POORER AMERICANS ALL ACROSS AMERICA ARE LOSING PARENTING AND VISITATION RIGHTS WITH THEIR CHILDREN, ARE BEING FALSELY IMPRISONED, WRONGFULY EXECUTED,LOSING THEIR HOMES OR APARTMENTS ETC...

** IS THIS REALLY WHAT MANY SAY APPEARS TO BE THE FORMATION OF A NEW WORLD ORDER IN AMERICA THAT IS ATTEMPTING TO BREAK DOWN AND DESTROY AMERICAN FAMILIES AND ESTABLISHED FAMILY VALUES ACROSS OUR GREAT COUNTRY ???
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